Bush's Live Speech - Text and Comments
Full text of speech - Americas - International Herald Tribune
I'm reading the text of the President's Speech last night. First off, looking at him he does look like he's ready to cry. His mouth is turned down and definitely looks in bad shape. Like someone trying to convince someone of something he doesn't even believe in himself.
"Iraw is the latest battlefield in this war. Many terrorists who kill innocent men, women and children on the streets of Baghdad are followers of the same murderous ideology that took the lives of our citizens in New York, in Washington and Pennsylvania."
Humm. Well Iraq was not home to these people before we invaded them. In fact Iraq was a fairly brutal dictatorship, not a theocracy as in Afghanistan. Saddam was actually an enemy to these types. Those being the types who would try to overthrow him. In fact, of all the nations in the area outside of Israel, Iraq was the one where you could not find terrorists or terrorist sympathizers. Terrorists and their supporters are still in Syria, Saudi Arabia, Lebanon, Egypt and those little Emerites all over the place. But not in Iraq - at least until we invaded them.
"We are removing a source of violence and instability and laying the foundation of peace for our children and our grandchildren."
Well, no actually. We have in fact created a source of violence and instability. We are increasing violence and the prospect of violence to our children and grandchildren. Now if we kill enough people, invade Syria and Iran and kill all of those people then maybe we'll stop the violence and instability. Right now, terrorists are streaming in from Syria and Iran and from Saudi Arabia, and Yemen and so forth.
"some of the violence you see in Iraq is being carried out by ruthless killers who are converging on Iraq to fight the advance of peace and freedom. Our military reports that we have killed or captured hundreds of foreign fighters in Iraq who have come from Saudi Arabia, Syria, Iran, Egypt, Sudan Yemen, Libya and others."
Exactly. One set of military reports that the President actually lets come out. The military reports that say 'we need more troops' or 'we need better armor' are ignored.
"Some wonder whether Iraq is a central front in the war on terror. Among the terrorists, there is no debate. Hear the words of Osama Bin Laden: "This Third World War is raging in Iraq. The whole world is watching this war." He says it will end in "victory and glory or misery and humiliation."
Well Iraq is the central part because we made it the central part. As such we have weakened our position in the war against terror and we have weakened our position with our allies and in the world generally. Also, it's funny that the President brought up Bin Laden who by the way is not in Iraq. As I recall Bin Laden was the actual enemy and was involved in the 9-11 attacks. He should be a focus of our efforts and he's not. Which is a mistake.
The only way our enemies can succeed is if we forget the lessons of September 11, if we abandon the Iraqi people to men like Zarqawi and if we yield the future of the Middle East to men like bin Laden.
Here the President is mixing two things. The 'lessons' of 9-11 and what would happen if we abandon Iraq now. Two different things entirely. The lessons of 9-11 include being more vigilant, having the various law enforcement authorities actually talk to each other, knowing who the enemy is and not letting terrorists have safe haven anywhere. Again, the only reason there are terrorists in Iraq is because we have invaded that country and given an opportunity for people in the Middle East who couldn't afford the plane ticket to the United States to walk across their own countries and pick up a gun and shoot americans. We created that problem ourselves. Now that we are there and now that we have created this mess we have to stay and finish the job. If we do pull out of Iraq we will be leaving the country to the mullahs and the Zarqawi's and in the end make the world more unstable.
"We continued our efforts to help them rebuild their country. Rebuilding a country after three decades of tyranny is hard and rebuilding while a country is at war is even harder. "
Rebuilding a country while it is at war is 'even harder'. No kidding. Well, you know, the country is at war because we can't stop the new terrorist fighters from coming across the Syrian border. We can't do that because we don't have enough troops on the ground to do that. We need more troops to accomplish the goal. The phony response to that is always, 'we let the Generals decide.' Well that is complete bullshit. Any General who says we need more troops finds himself on the short end of retirement. The political pressure to not request more troops is high. Generals don't become Generals because they are insensitive to Political pressures. They are Generals because they are political themselves. If they disagree with the policy as stated and pushed through by the Secretary of Defense they are not allowed to disagree publicly. If they feel actually strongly about being a party the deaths of american soldiers that are supposed to be under their care then they are free to retire and try to get someone to listen to them then.
"But our commanders tell me they have the number of troops they need to do their job. Sending more Americans would undermine our strategy of encouraging Iraqis to take the lead in this fight. And sending more Americans would suggest that we intend to stay forever, when we are in fact working for the day when Iraq can defend itself and we can leave."
At last a reason or two. First the lie though, 'our commanders tell me they have the numbers of troops they need to do their job.' - Really, you can't run around and say the sky is purple when we can see for ourselves with our own eyes that it is blue. When we don't have the troops to keep the streets safe and fighters from pouring across the Syrian border then we cannot say that we have enough troops to do the job. They aren't doing the job now, because there aren't enough troops. Really. That is self evident. And any General who says otherwise is lying and or incompetent or perhaps a political General.
"We have more work to do, and there will be tough moments that test AmericaÂs resolve. We are fighting against men with blind hatred and armed with lethal weapons who are capable of any atrocity. They wear no uniform; they respect no laws of warfare or morality."
Completely true. What kind of religious people scream like stuck pigs when someone mishandless' their holy book but say nothing at all when the people fighting in the name of that book torture and behead people? A complete lack of morality as anyone should understand morality. Their view of religion involves abuse of children,women and non muslims, cuts off free thought and thinking and has no tolerance of anybody else but yet they demand tolerance of their own brand of intolerance. We have a policy of supporting some of the countries that do this, that abuse human rights in these ways and as long as we do, there will be a endless supply of terrorists. We are doing nothing to actually win this fight. Nothing at all.
I'm reading the text of the President's Speech last night. First off, looking at him he does look like he's ready to cry. His mouth is turned down and definitely looks in bad shape. Like someone trying to convince someone of something he doesn't even believe in himself.
"Iraw is the latest battlefield in this war. Many terrorists who kill innocent men, women and children on the streets of Baghdad are followers of the same murderous ideology that took the lives of our citizens in New York, in Washington and Pennsylvania."
Humm. Well Iraq was not home to these people before we invaded them. In fact Iraq was a fairly brutal dictatorship, not a theocracy as in Afghanistan. Saddam was actually an enemy to these types. Those being the types who would try to overthrow him. In fact, of all the nations in the area outside of Israel, Iraq was the one where you could not find terrorists or terrorist sympathizers. Terrorists and their supporters are still in Syria, Saudi Arabia, Lebanon, Egypt and those little Emerites all over the place. But not in Iraq - at least until we invaded them.
"We are removing a source of violence and instability and laying the foundation of peace for our children and our grandchildren."
Well, no actually. We have in fact created a source of violence and instability. We are increasing violence and the prospect of violence to our children and grandchildren. Now if we kill enough people, invade Syria and Iran and kill all of those people then maybe we'll stop the violence and instability. Right now, terrorists are streaming in from Syria and Iran and from Saudi Arabia, and Yemen and so forth.
"some of the violence you see in Iraq is being carried out by ruthless killers who are converging on Iraq to fight the advance of peace and freedom. Our military reports that we have killed or captured hundreds of foreign fighters in Iraq who have come from Saudi Arabia, Syria, Iran, Egypt, Sudan Yemen, Libya and others."
Exactly. One set of military reports that the President actually lets come out. The military reports that say 'we need more troops' or 'we need better armor' are ignored.
"Some wonder whether Iraq is a central front in the war on terror. Among the terrorists, there is no debate. Hear the words of Osama Bin Laden: "This Third World War is raging in Iraq. The whole world is watching this war." He says it will end in "victory and glory or misery and humiliation."
Well Iraq is the central part because we made it the central part. As such we have weakened our position in the war against terror and we have weakened our position with our allies and in the world generally. Also, it's funny that the President brought up Bin Laden who by the way is not in Iraq. As I recall Bin Laden was the actual enemy and was involved in the 9-11 attacks. He should be a focus of our efforts and he's not. Which is a mistake.
The only way our enemies can succeed is if we forget the lessons of September 11, if we abandon the Iraqi people to men like Zarqawi and if we yield the future of the Middle East to men like bin Laden.
Here the President is mixing two things. The 'lessons' of 9-11 and what would happen if we abandon Iraq now. Two different things entirely. The lessons of 9-11 include being more vigilant, having the various law enforcement authorities actually talk to each other, knowing who the enemy is and not letting terrorists have safe haven anywhere. Again, the only reason there are terrorists in Iraq is because we have invaded that country and given an opportunity for people in the Middle East who couldn't afford the plane ticket to the United States to walk across their own countries and pick up a gun and shoot americans. We created that problem ourselves. Now that we are there and now that we have created this mess we have to stay and finish the job. If we do pull out of Iraq we will be leaving the country to the mullahs and the Zarqawi's and in the end make the world more unstable.
"We continued our efforts to help them rebuild their country. Rebuilding a country after three decades of tyranny is hard and rebuilding while a country is at war is even harder. "
Rebuilding a country while it is at war is 'even harder'. No kidding. Well, you know, the country is at war because we can't stop the new terrorist fighters from coming across the Syrian border. We can't do that because we don't have enough troops on the ground to do that. We need more troops to accomplish the goal. The phony response to that is always, 'we let the Generals decide.' Well that is complete bullshit. Any General who says we need more troops finds himself on the short end of retirement. The political pressure to not request more troops is high. Generals don't become Generals because they are insensitive to Political pressures. They are Generals because they are political themselves. If they disagree with the policy as stated and pushed through by the Secretary of Defense they are not allowed to disagree publicly. If they feel actually strongly about being a party the deaths of american soldiers that are supposed to be under their care then they are free to retire and try to get someone to listen to them then.
"But our commanders tell me they have the number of troops they need to do their job. Sending more Americans would undermine our strategy of encouraging Iraqis to take the lead in this fight. And sending more Americans would suggest that we intend to stay forever, when we are in fact working for the day when Iraq can defend itself and we can leave."
At last a reason or two. First the lie though, 'our commanders tell me they have the numbers of troops they need to do their job.' - Really, you can't run around and say the sky is purple when we can see for ourselves with our own eyes that it is blue. When we don't have the troops to keep the streets safe and fighters from pouring across the Syrian border then we cannot say that we have enough troops to do the job. They aren't doing the job now, because there aren't enough troops. Really. That is self evident. And any General who says otherwise is lying and or incompetent or perhaps a political General.
"We have more work to do, and there will be tough moments that test AmericaÂs resolve. We are fighting against men with blind hatred and armed with lethal weapons who are capable of any atrocity. They wear no uniform; they respect no laws of warfare or morality."
Completely true. What kind of religious people scream like stuck pigs when someone mishandless' their holy book but say nothing at all when the people fighting in the name of that book torture and behead people? A complete lack of morality as anyone should understand morality. Their view of religion involves abuse of children,women and non muslims, cuts off free thought and thinking and has no tolerance of anybody else but yet they demand tolerance of their own brand of intolerance. We have a policy of supporting some of the countries that do this, that abuse human rights in these ways and as long as we do, there will be a endless supply of terrorists. We are doing nothing to actually win this fight. Nothing at all.
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